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announced in advance will be three on the economy, and one each on health care, the role of government, and governing. with an emphasis through out on differences, specifics, and choices. both candidates will also have two-minute closing statements. the audience here in the hall has promised to remain silent. no cheers, applause, boos, hisses, among other noisy, distracting things, so we may all concentrate on what the candidates have to say. there is a noise exception right now, though, as we welcome president obama. and governor romney. [ applause ] >> jim. >> gentlemen, welcome to you both. let's start with the economy. segment one, and let's begin with jobs. what are the major differences between the two of you about how you would go about creating new jobs? have you two minutes. each of you have two minutes to start. a coin toss determined, mr. president, you go first. >> thank you very much, jim, for this opportunity. i want to thank governor romney and the university of denver for your hospitality, a lot of points i want to make tonight, but the most important one is that 20 yea
by government through fiscal policy was the real blow-up risk. so if you think of a couple places in the world that we were the most afraid of like europe, i think the actions of the ecb to at least defer the problems with the sovereigns and the bank issues in europe, if they use this time to fix the problems, we'll look back and think it's a good thing. if they deferred them, made them worse in the long term, we won't feel that way. i think something similar has happened in the united states whereby a lot of liquidity has been provided by the central bank. >> andrew, you have operations throughout all of the world. what's your sense of growth? there are troubling reports about growth slowing down which so far have been a very powerful lifeline for global growth as united states and europe weakened, particularly china where you do a lot of business. >> i don't think we're going have an '08/'09 scenario out there for the reasons lloyd was addressed. i do think the world since '08/'09 to now has not gotten to normal. of course, the obvious, which is consumption in the u.s., is not where it was.
but government, federal, state and local cut jobs. government cut a million jobs between 2010 and the middle of 2012. those tend to be middle class type of jobs with benefits. in the past couple of months we've seen that finally come to a halt, and government employment, you know, which people usually don't get too excited about, but that's been a huge detractor from the labor market. the last few months we've actually started to add jobs in government. >> you're right. >> teachers, civil servants, et cetera. i see that as a net positive. >> unless there's a fiscal cliff and you won't be adding government jobs, that's for darn sure. >> let's talk a little bit about the middle, and for the people in the middle, you could argue that the middle class has demand an awful lot over the past 20 or 30 years that sort of led us to this debt problem, led us to this deficit problem. they want homeownership for everybody. we want tax cuts. we want medicare part "d." we want an expansion of safety net programs and then this is what happens. there's no one in the middle to figure out how to pay for all th
the power of the government, they have their own laws and's what they follow. and we have no interference in that. the government has paved wait four the highest form of freedom of most people. you see people criticize, people sometimes trespass the border lines of proper as a president, i'm not middle of the people of iran, without drawing any borders, without drawing any reed red lines, we converse. >> right, but this isn't just any protester, this could be your daughter in the future. she is daughter of your predecessors, the president. it's a fairly significant moment that she has been imprisoned. do you feel uncomfortable that this lady is in jail? >> let's separate the two argument, the two topics. happy this anyone is going to prize in? no. never. no one should go to prison, but also keep in mind that in any country, every one must be treated equally under the laws. no one must have -- or must receive special treatment because of having been a part of the power structure, regardless of whether the action taken resulted in imprisonment is right or wrong. i'm not a judge of that. >>
two plans. and by the way, if the government can be as efficient as the private sector and offer premiums that are as low as the private sector, people will be happy to get traditional medicare, or they'll be able to get a private plan. i know my own view is, i'd rather have a private plan. i'd just as soon not having the government telling me what kind of health care i get. i'd rather having a insurance company, if i don't like them, i can get rid of them and get a different insurance company. but people like to make their own choice. and the other thing we have to do for medicare, we have to have the benefits high for those who are low-income, but for high-income people, we're going to have to lower some of the benefits. we have to make sure this plan is there for the long-term. that's the plan i put forward. and by the way, the idea came not even from paul ryan or senator wyden, but it came from bill clinton's chief of staff. this is an idea that's been around a long time. which is saying, hey, let's not see if we can get competition into the medicare world, so that people can
it, "obama's other speech. the barely recognizable obama." claims government spends too much on suburbs, not quote, our earlier neighborhood. here now with remarks on how response to hurricane katrina differed from hurricane andrew and for 9/11 attacks. >> down in new orleans where they have not rebuild a year later, there's money you can get from the government called the staff ford act. and basically it says when you get federal money, you have to give a 10% local match. the government has to come up with 10%. every $10 federal government comes up with, local government has to come up with a dollar. now here's the thing, when 9/11 happened in new york city, they waved the safford act saying we can't ask new york city to rebuild. they said, here's $10 and that was the right thing to do. when hurricane andrew struck in florida, people said, look at this devastation. we don't expect you to come up with your own money. here's the money to rebuild. we are not going to wait for you to scratch it together. because you're part of the american family. >> what's happening down in new
out the accusation, that's like asking the government, how often do you beat your wife? >> i should have had a question mark at the back of it, ali, let's face it, okay? the facts are, ali, no matter how you want to look at this, we had 25 economists polled before this number came out. the average number they expected was about 115,000. not one of them had a number below 8.1. they were republicans and they were democrats. and all of a sudden -- >> i agree with you. >> you agree with that? >> i agree with everything you're saying, jack, and if your question was -- >> i wake up this morning and it's 7.8 with a bunch of assumptions. >> as the best ceo that america has ever had, there are two very powerful things you can say here. one is let's take a look at how the bls, bureau of labor statistics, and the department of labor measures employment, number one. and b, maybe mitt romney should be replacing president obama if he's not doing a good job. but to say there is corruption of somebody cooking these books, why do you do this? for a government in trust of private institutions, that's
's like asking the government how often do you beat your wife. >> i should have had a question mark at the back of it. let's face it, okay? but the facts are, no matter how you want to look at this, we had 25 economists polled before this number came out. the average number they expected was about 115,000. >> yes. >> not one of them had a number below 8.1. there were 8.1, they were republicans and they were democrats and all of a sudden -- >> i agree with you. >> do you agree with that? >> i agree with everything you're saying, jack. your question was -- >> then you wake up in the morning and it's 7.8 with a bunch of assumptions. >> there are two great facts you make. as the best ceo america has ever had, there are two very powerful things you can say here. one is let's take a look at how the bls, bureau of labor statistics and department of labor measures unemployment, number one, and b, maybe you think barack obama's not doing a good job and mitt romney should be replacing him. but to honestly suggest that there's corruption, that the obama campaign may have had something to do wi
. it is time to stop rewarding our friends and punishing our enemies and having the government treat every american the same, which is a foundational principal of the rule of law. and i think mitt romney has to do more of that. has he been specific with his plan? he laid five out in the debate, which is more than the president did. that's why independents thought mitt romney did very, very well. >> let me ask you about one of the issues where they differ, medicare. that is a big deal in florida romney says he supports vouchers for medicare, a plan that is not very popular. how does play in florida with all those seniors? >> right now in florida, you've got about 12 million registered voters. 36% who are republicans, you have 40% who are democrats. and then the 24% or the remainder is going to be the most important percentage in america and i think it's 24% who are not registered republican or democrat. these are going to be the most important voters in the united states. but, let's look at medicare. you have mitt romney who says, i want to give you vouchers, which i personally don't agree
's presence. they think tice was being detained in august but the government has not acknowledged it. happening in frib, gunmen opened fire on a university in northeastern nigeria. 20 people are now dead. no one has claimed responsibility for the attack but it happened in an area that's been a targeted by islamic militants. we are deeply sorry for what happened. that is the response from ikea. the swedish retail giant came under criticism for intentionally removing photos of women in catalogs that were shipped to saudi arabia. the company is investigating why these photos were omitted in the first place. saudi arabia does not prohibit the presence of women in marketing materials. and hong kong, 38 people are dead in the territory's deadliest maritime accident in decades. a passenger ferry collided with another boat last night off of lamma. police have arrested seven screw members from the boats and rescue crews are still looking for survivors. >> reporter: a night of celebration turned to tragedy as water rushed in through the boat's hull. >> translator: the boat was standing straigh
ishes praise on reverend wright, claims the government spends too much on suburbs, not enough on "our neighborhoods." earlier, we played the clip about where he praised jeremiah wright. and now the difference of the response of hurricane katrina to hurricane andrew. >> down in new orleans, there is a federal law called the stafford act. the local government has to give a match. here is the thing. when 9/11 happened in new york city, they waved the stafford act. forget that dollar you have to put in. here is $10. and that was the right thing to do when hurricane andrew struck in florida, they said look at this devastation, don't expect you to put that money in. what's happening in new orleans? where is your dollar, where is your stafford act money? makes no sense. tells me the but let hasn't been taken out. tells me that somehow the people in new orleans, they don't care about as much. >> president obama, that was five years ago. decide for yourself whether this shows a side of barack obama never been seen before as the daily caller suggestsor nothing new. the president seems to be spe
a view very similar to the view he had when he ran four years ago. that a bigger government, spending more, taxing more, regulating more, if you will, trickle down government would work. >> president obama sounded a familiar alarm. warning of romney's been there done that economics. >> the approach that governor romney is talking about is the same sales pitch that was made in 2001 and 2003. we ended up with the slowest job growth in 50 years. >> whether it was health care, jobs, or medicare, it was romney who stood out for his aggressive style. >> i just don't know how the president could have come into office facing 23 million people out of work, rising unemployment, an economic crisis at the kitchen table, and spend his energy and passion for two years fighting for obama care. >> the president made his points in a slower, more laid back, often looking down, sometimes appearing disengaged. it's not that he didn't try to rip apart romney's economic plan. >> that kind of top-down economics where folks at the top are doing well, so the average person making $3 million is getting a $250,
sense of it all. here is the deal. big questions over the role of government when it comes to the economy. these two guys could not be further apart. did they make their case clear last night? >> it was part of the debate i enjoyed the most. i enjoyed the economic stuff. when it got to the role of golf, jim lehrer asked that and i thought they stated their case and mitt romney stated it well where he said he doesn't believe the federal government can do much that is better than the private sector can be left to do or individuals can do and barack obama, you know, he started by saying the major role of government is keeping its people safe. but that is a fundamental disagreement between conservatives and liberals. i think -- i don't know that too many people would have been confused about their answers or would have expected them to say something else but i think it's important that your vote this time around is determined by what role you think government should have. the key difference to remember is in the last four years with the economic collapse, we live in a world, in
but would get a mandate to govern but would have a lot of senators down ticket that would win with him. that would make him a much stronger president. now i think the chances of winning big have largely evaporated and it's likely we will have a much closer election now. the president obviously is still favored, but we have got a horse race. >> that's what makes these races so interesting, gloria, is how the narrative changes. it used to be months, from one month to the next. it is' now overnight. last week was 47%, now it's this, who knows what it will be next week when the vice president debates. one thing of david axelrod's response is that the president was basically taking the high road last night which almost makes it sound like the president's performance was a conscious tactical decision. do you buy that? >> i don't think they consciously decided to lose this debate and i don't think david axelrod is going to come out and say you know what, the president really blew it last night, although as jessica pointed out privately, certainly, there are obama allies who are happy to say t
because they're too good? >> what we're seeing right now in my view is a trickle-down government approach which thinks that government can do a better job than free people pursuing their dreams. >> it's thursday, october 4th, and "starting point" begins right now. >> good morning! welcome, everybody. our starting point this morning is the morning after debate night in america. both candidates are on the campaign trail today, again, after the first of three presidential debates, the first one, of course, in denver last night. president obama and mitt romney going toe to toe on critical issues, like the economy and health care. and by most accounts, it was mitt romney who emerged the victor. lots of debate analysis ahead on "starting point." we'll be talking live with john mccain of arizona and rand paul of kentucky. from team obama, we'll be speaking with martin o'malley and campaign spokeswoman, jen psaki. plus, obama's former economic adviser, austan goolsbee. first, though, a look at the instant reaction from the debate in the cnn/orc poll, of debate watchers taken right after the debat
government officials have confirmed to the committee that prior to the september 11th attacks, the u.s. mission in libya made repeated requests for increased security in benghazi. the mission in libya, however, was denied these resources by officials in washington. the state department has responded to darrell issa's letter. here is spokeswoman victoria newland. we are now working through all of the documents, all of the information that is available to us in this department. we will see where we are on the 10th, but it is our intention to cooperate fully. >> all right. hillary clinton also responded to issa with a letter of her own. i have it here. she said she has established an accountability review board, which begins work this week to determine, and i want to quote her, i'll read here straight from the letter, wants to determine whether our security systems and procedures in benghazi were adequate. whether they were properly implemented. and any lessons that may be relevant to our work around the world. darrell issa joins me now. good to see you, sir, and appreciate your taking
to try to bring the country together to govern. he was the first candidate ever to lose white business double digits and win. there is a racial element that is in the backdrop here. not necessarily racism, but very different views about the role of government and very different views about the parties. if it moves things at the margin, could it matter? sure. the last slice of voter also decide this they are forward looking at this point. and 2007 is a long way to reach back when you're dealing with 8% unemployment. >> ron brownstein, thank you so much. >>> the debate is not just stressful for the candidates but also for their wives. both michelle obama and ann romney are talking about their role in the debates. first lady says she mostly offers positive reinforcement but does get nervous. >> i get so nervous at these debates and, you know, i'm like one of those parents watching their kid on the balance beam. you're just standing there, just trying not to, you know, have any expression at all. >> ann romney says she comforts her husband during the debates and he looks for her in the aud
of government and leadership/governing style. and by a pretty wide margin going in right now, the voters expect president obama is going to outdebate his opponent, but both men have taken great pains to downplay their own chances, downplay the expectations. our dan lothian is up very early at the university of denver. and, dan, i understand this is the fourth time that these two men have really ever encountered one another in person. is that expected to have any effect when they meet each other on stage? >> well, certainly this is not someone who the president spent time with in the senate, has not spent a lot of time talking to him, and when they debate tonight, for 90 minutes, it will be the most time and the longest time that they have spent interacting at all. so it is an unusual, i guess, setting if you will for the president and governor mitt romney. but nonetheless, they're getting ready for this big event, the last couple of days they have been doing these mock debates, going through every possible question that will be asked, every possible scenario that will be thrown their way. so th
are threatening to strike if the government refuses to allow a general vote on the austerity measures. the protests appeared peaceful. no reports of any violence thankfully. >>> tonight's spacex launch will officially turn space into a business. the resupply mission to the international space mission will launch from cape canaveral, florida. spacex successfully demonstrated it could do the job in may when it docked a capsule with the space station. we'll go live to florida later on this hour. ♪ >>> well, republican voters in port st. lucie, florida, are turning out in big numbers for their candidate, mitt romney. it's his second straight day up and down the critical swing state, and today he pointed again to one of the key differences between his and president obama's plans. listen. >> if he is re-elected, he will install obama care and with it your premiums are going to go up an extra $2,500 above what they already are in current health care plan. my plan is i will finally get control of the excessive costs in health care by repealing and replacing obama care with real reforms. >>
from the united states government, i think that's going to hurt him. and ultimately i think that people in this country believe that barack obama is looking out for their interests, for their economic interests and for their future. >> it is clear where you stand politically. i don't want to ask you who you want to win, but honestly, who do you think will win tonight? >> i think on style i think right now i have to give the points to mitt romney. i think he's very well practiced. he's been apparently memorizing the zingers. i think he'll be very relaxed. when it comes to the substance, i think we'll have barack obama. so ultimately the people are going to have to choose who wins tonight. >> shannon o'brien, thank you very much. thanks for taking a trip down memory lane with me back to 2002. we appreciate it. >>> just ahead, new information and images following that deadly attack at the u.s. consulate in libya, benghazi, which killed four americans including the u.s. ambassador. up next, an exclusive look at where ambassador christopher stevens spent his final moments. s to supply afford
a lasting government that represents all of them. and i'll vigorously pursue the terrorists who attacked our consulate in benghazi and killed our fellow americans. >> eli lake has been out on the libya story from the beginning with what the u.s. knew. he joins us once again with increasing information on this. so, i want you to clear up something. you've been reporting today about the militia and some leaders of that militia in benghazi, who were allied with our mission there, but then said we're done with you because you don't like who we support for our new leadership. was that accurate? were they threatening to pull that work away and leave us less protected? >> that's based on the notes of september 11, 2012 cable that was approved by ambassador chris stevens on sort of the benghazi situation overall. it was one of the most interesting bullet points in the three page cable back to washington and i think it shows that in libya right now, there is an effort to try to build serious national security institutions, but those are very early, the early stages of that right now and that means th
jobs were added in july and august that government auditor didn't notice in the beginning. they revised their numbers. actually, july, august were stronger than expected to the tune of 86,000. 7.8% unemployment rate. what does that mean? the best since january 2009. when we dig within these numbers, carol, we can also see that some 418,000 people entered the workforce in the month. they are feeling a little more confident about things. either that or they've been out of the workforce for so long they've got to try to get in and get a job. you've got more people coming into the workforce. overall, 114,000 jobs created. they were in health care, transportation and government jobs. government jobs, three months in a row now. we've been seeing government layoffs for many, many, many months in a row. government jobs, transportation warehousing and we've been seeing -- everything else is pretty much flat in terms of job categories. the headline, carol, 7.8% is the unemployment rate. one more jobs report until the election. >> okay. so the political implications of this already coming in. in f
of governing and one segment on the role of government in people's lives, john. so how this is going to be set up is that the candidates will be sitting at podiums. if you're looking at your tv screen, mitt romney on your left, president obama on your right. the first question tonight, john, goes to barack obama. >> well, will they have a chance to mix it up and rebutt each other in a free-flowing way. >> organizers hope to have a flee-flowing discussion. this is the kind discussion we like to see because it allows the two candidates to discuss it amongst themselves. if there are questions about each other's plans, they can directly ask each other that. we have not seen that in this campaign and we'll see it tonight. >> you said the economy will likely be the big subject in the debate tonight. we have new polling to give a sense of what voters are saying about this right now. >> it is, john. no surprise, people are very downtrodden about the economy. let's look at the new cnn poll just released coming on the air. it shows that 73% of americans believe that there is poor economic conditions rig
. and the british government has ordered to the u.s. to face terrorism charges. he and four other men lost their last ditch attempt to stay. the judge says they cannot appeal. here you see new video said to show their convoy leaving a british prison. they may already be on their way out of the country. he is accused in connection with the kidnapping of western tourists in yemen and alleged terror training camp in oregon. wolf. >> lisa, thanks very much. >>> mitt romney now says his 47% remarks were "completely wrong." our unsolicited advice panel standing by completely ready to weigh-in. of any small business credit card. your boa! [ garth ] thor's small business earns double miles on every purchase, every day! ahh, the new fabrics, put it on my spark card. [ garth ] why settle for less? the spiked heels are working. wait! [ garth ] great businesses deserve the most rewards! [ male announcer ] the spark business card from capital one. choose unlimited rewards with double miles or 2% cash back on every purchase, every day! what's in your wallet? [ cheers and applause ] and the candidate's s
the movement of small government, i think. because i think a lot of people realize our government is very big. it has become much bigger, and well-thinking moderates in both parties can say we need a smaller footprint of the government. but when the small government movement comes out and just says crazy things like this, it hurts their cause. >> i absolutely agree with you, christine. thanks for clearing that up. stay there. we'll be back to you a little later. >>> steven moore san editorial writer for the wall street journal. steven, i want to talk about the real stuff here, the real meat of this jobs report. before we do that, i think christine's point is very valid, and that is that there is a really reasonable and strong argument for smaller, more effective government in the united states, but these kind of conspiracy theories do nothing to help anybody's cause. >> i don't think there was a conspiracy behind these numbers at all. it's misty fiing, we're a little confused, ali, why there was such a big leap in one of the jobs surveys and a modest gain in the other. a lot of economists lik
think it's fooir fair for the government to intrude in our resefr. >> a lawyer for the city says the film isn't journalism because it advocates for the five. in a statement the city says if they want an open arg the facts, they should encourage the flim makers not it to hide anything. the filmmaker claim the documentary sticks to the fact. what do you make of the city trying to go after the outtakes? >> they need to stop dragging their feet. they won't find anything other than what we know. that we were innocent, and this is just going to continue to further restate that. >> usef says no matter the outcome, he may never fully escape his nightmare that started in this park. susan candiotti, cnn, new york. >>> president barack obama is in los angeles at this hour. he's there raising cash at a fund-raiser. you may recall he just set a record of $181 million in september. white house correspondent dan lothian is traveling with the president. dan, at this point he's on record to raise almost a billion dollars now, and that's not including those outside super-pacs. how much is he expec
added 104,000 jobs, and the government sect or added 10,000. we saw health care jobs created. more than 44,000 there. this has been a trend for a couple of years. about 16,000 jobs lost over there in the manufacturing sector, which is, of course, very, very important to some of these battleground states, suzanne. >> christy, some of the attacks from conservatives, such as jack welch, saying they don't believe the numbers. they believe the books are cooked essentially. explain the process of how we reach these numbers today? >> there's spin, and then there are conspiracy theories, and the spin, which is valid, if spin can be valid, is that, you know, look, you still have only 114,000 jobs created on balance. that's -- you know, you immediate on see more than that at this stage of a recovery, but let me be very clear here. these are two different reports that they put together. right? one of them is a survey of people at home where you call them up and say are you working and the people say yes or no and explain how. the other is a survey of employers where they ask are you hiring? that's
pulled all u.s. government personnel out of benghazi. "the washington post" reports the consulate is closed, and locked up. but the scene of the deadly attack remains unguarded. >>> there's also word that the white house has held a series of secret meetings over the past few months, due to concern about the growing threat of al qaeda's north africa branch. "the post" reports that a part of the discussion is focused on potential u.s. military strikes against the group known as al qaeda in the islamic magreb. >>> huge heads up for those of you who purchased the new iphone 5. apple support forums online are being overloaded with complaints about a bug that drains cellular data usage even when phones are connected to wi-fi. now this is forcing people to blow through their data caps in a matter of days. apple has not publicly commented, but you know, it did already release a software upgrade, with a bug fix. >> go bears. chicago bears mauling the dallas cowboys on monday night football. the chicago defense intercepting tony romo five times. five times in a 34-18 drubbing in dallas. two
-- >> govern romney's proposal calls for a $5 trillion tax cut. >> andthe man after his ob >> i'm not looking for a $5 trillion tax cut. what i said is i won't put in place a tax cut that adds to the deficit. >> their first debate, contentio contentious. >> for 18 months he's been running on this tax plan. and now, five weeks before the election, he's saying that his big bold idea is never mind. >> virtually everything he said about my tax plan sin accurate. look, i have five boys. i'm use the to people saying something that is notays ultimately hoping i'll believe it. >> the question this morning, did either candidate do enough to make believers out of america's undecided voters? >>> it is the day after. good morning and welcome to "early start," everybody. >>> it's 5:00 a.m. in the east. first, round one. it is now in the books. mitt romney has something to celebrate. in a cnn poll, 67% said romney won the first presidential debate. 25% think president obama was the victor. >> there were no real knockout punches thrown last night, more like a series of glancing blows with romney the aggress
're watching this morning. developing situation in turkey, where the government has authorized troop deployment in foreign countries. that approval comes as turkey continues firing on syria in retaliation for shelling one of the border towns. syria apologizing now for that attack. five people were killed. >>> from baytown, texas, extinguished a blaze that wiped out an exxonmobil plant. the fire is still under investigation here, no one was injured. >>> 79% of teachers in chicago have approve d a new contract, the highest approval rating in teachers union history. the deal was reached after a seven-day strike last month, which impacted the nation's thrp third largest school system. >>> turning now to sports and baseball and something that has not been seen in 45 years. detroit tigers miguel cabrera has won the american league triple crown. cabrera was taken out in the fourth inning in last night's game with kansas city, got a standing ovation from royals fans. the guy they call miggy was modest about his historic achievement. >> i don't believe it. i don't believe it's happening right now. i don
on the domestic policies, focus on the economy, on health care, on the role of government. it will be a 90-minute debate. six segments of 15 minutes each. one main question per segment and two minutes to answer the question. the rest of the time will be for discussions. that's where we can expect some fireworks, perhaps. and in the audience will be vips, people whose campaigns have invited. both candidates will try not to make any mistakes. >> you think? you think that's what they're going to do. dan lothian joins us this morning. >>> other stories making news, believe it or not besides the debate, john berman has that with us. >> american airlines is going to inspect 47 of its boeing 757s after seats came loose in flight on two of its planes within days of each other. they checked 36 planes so far. six had seats not properly secured. american says not all of the seats were loose but they potentially could loosen. they say improperly installed clamps caused the problem. >>> twice on tuesday vice president joe biden's plane had to abort original landing plans. last night air force 2 couldn't land
libya, he says he would work with the government of libya to find the guys that murdered our ambassador. well, obviously that's what the obama administration is doing. >> you have a lot of fodder for your weekend show, so we'll be watching it and also for suzanne malveaux's shows which is up and coming. thank you for taking the time to be on our show today. fareed zakaria, and as i sign off, i do want remind you "newsroom international" starts right now with suzanne malveaux. >> kuhn dem the president for leading from behind, declaring it is time to change -- criticized the obama administration for not having an overall strategy in this region, and here's how he summed it up. the know the president hopes for a safer, freer, aligned middle east with us. i share this hope, but hope is not a strategy. we can't support our friends and defeat our enemies in the middle east when our words are not backed up by deeds. >> now, wolf, we know he was referring to a lot of the protests around in the region, and even the killing of the u.s. ambassador in benghazi, libya, but when you listen to what h
. 47% are with him, who are dependent upon government, who believe they are victims, who believe the government has a responsibility to provide for them, belief they're entitled to health care, food, housing, you name it. they will vote for this president no matter what. >> remember that. and remember romney's explanation after the video was released. >> well, you know, it's not elegantly stated. let me put it that way. i'm speaking off the cuff in response to a question. it's a message i'll carry and continue to carry, which is, look, the president's approach is tractive to people who are not paying taxes. because frankly, my discussion about lowering taxes isn't as attractive to them and, therefore, i'm not likely to draw them into my campaign as effectively as those who are in the id million. >> so he said it was a message he was going to continue to carry. but now this. in a tv interview last night, romney did a complete about-face, saying the statement was completely wrong. >> clearly in a campaign with hundreds, if not thousands of speeches and question and answer sessions,
or are in between. lot more people have to get to know govern orromnor romney so more important debate. i think he has to be presidential. i think he has to convey the kind of person that people would be comfortable with as president. i tend to think we kind of score this as if it's a boxing match or basketball game. >> you know what it's like to debate mitt romney. i don't want to rehash any old wounds but i do want to play just some of the thing you guys got into and ask what he's like as a debater. >> governor romney, was new york a sanctuary city? >> absolutely. called itself a sanctuary city. in fact, in the welfare reform act president clinton brought forward said they were going to end the sanctuary policy of new york city, the mayor actually brought a suit to maintain its sanctuary city status. >> it's unfortunate, but mitt generally criticizes people in a situation in which he's had far the worst record. for example, in his case, there were six sanctuary cities. he did nothing about them. there was even a sanctuary mansion at his own home, illegal immigrants were being employed. not, not
believe as one limited government group said in a press release that there are baghdad bombs in the bureau of labor statistics making up numbers for the regime, if you believe that like some conspiracy theorists do why weren't these numbers better for the past three years and why were the numbers so lackluster the day after the president gave his speech at the dnc taking the wind out of the dnc because the headline the next day was about a jobs number that wasn't very good. it doesn't make any sense. it defies logic. we know these people. we crunch the same numbers these people are crunching. it shows you how disgusting and contentious an election can be. people realize our government is big. it's become much bigger. and well thinking moderates in both parties can say we need a smaller footprint of the government. when the small government movement comes out and says crazy things like this it hurts their cause. >> agree with you. thanks for clearing that up. stay there we'll be back to you. stephen moore is a writer for the "wall street journal". stephen, i want to talk about the real stuf
's vision as trickled down government. and i don't think that's what america believes in. i see instead a prosperity that comes through freedom. >> reporter: it didn't take long after the debate was finished for the romney campaign to turn the spin room into the win room. are you declaring victory, jim, if this was a boxing match, the referee would have called it. after taking some knocks from some in the gop after spending too much time in debate prep and not enough in rally in swing states, the romney campaign felt vindicated. although eric fehrnstrom pushed back on the notion that the republican contender was more ready than the president. >> well, look, you know, i think at the end of the day both the president and governor romney probably put in an equal amount of time preparing for this debate. >> reporter: just two days after the president joked his own advisors were pushing him to do more debate prep. >> they're making me do my homework. >> reporter: obama campaign manager said romney had an advantage going into the debate. >> governor romney's prepared more for this debate than
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